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**__In person meetings:__** **Thursday, April 22, 2010** Meeting at Starbucks in McKinney, TX 8:00 pm to 9:30 pm Completed portions of lesson plan template:

 * Determined content-area standards and objectives, AASL standards and strands, TEKS
 * Selected graphic organizer (dialectical journal)
 * Created assessment rubric (same rubric for both students and instructors)

Meeting at Starbucks in McKinney, TX 7:00 to 9:00 pm Lesson plan created: Implementation portion discussed and created beginning with Motivation through Student Practice Procedures
 * Thursday, April 29, 2010**

Meeting at Starbucks in McKinney, TX 6:30 pm to 7:30 pm Lesson plan completed: Implementation portion completed, from Guided Practice to Reflection (added in Modifications)
 * Tuesday, May 4, 2010**
 * __Yahoo Chat Logs:__**

Rhonda Bier: hey there heather.garavaglia: Good Evening Rhonda Bier: was just looking at the assignment sheet - have you done the message board yet for the assignment? heather.garavaglia: I am going to email what I have on word. Just trying to think of a question. Rhonda Bier: sorry, hold on a sec heather.garavaglia: not a problem Rhonda Bier: ugh, having computer issues. hold on still Rhonda Bier: sorry, going to have to log off for a sec. be right back Rhonda Bier has signed back in. (4/27/2010 8:04 PM) Rhonda Bier: ok, that's better. sorry heather.garavaglia: no problem Rhonda Bier: ok, just opened the doc you sent Rhonda Bier: it opened fine Rhonda Bier: i am in the same boat you are in, but I am certainly open to suggestions from peers! heather.garavaglia: What are some questions we can ask? I figured if we could come up with two questions then we can each post one. Rhonda Bier: good idea Rhonda Bier: let me think Rhonda Bier: ok... heather.garavaglia: I am wondering if we have too many SS TEKS? heather.garavaglia: I also want to know if they may think this would be better in pairs than partners. Rhonda Bier: one question: is there a more effective graphic organizer than the one we selected to help students organize their thoughts heather.garavaglia: That is good. heather.garavaglia: You can have that one since it was your idea. heather.garavaglia: I am just not good at this. TAKS has fried my brain. Rhonda Bier: i think yours about pairs is a good question Rhonda Bier: oh that's right - you had that today! heather.garavaglia: Yes, and I test tomorrow and Thursday too. Crazy. :: ok, and i have 20 things going on in the house right now. we are not an effective pair this evening Rhonda Bier: how about we post our questions for now heather.garavaglia: I am wondering if the student assessment and self assessment are okay being the same. Rhonda Bier: were you wanting to work on more of the assignment tonight? heather.garavaglia: Cool. I am also working on the lesson plan (just typing in the stuff we have). I can see if we can share it through google docs. heather.garavaglia: Then when we are finished, we can cut and paste to the wiki. I just HATE the wiki sometimes. Even though we can easily recover it, I just am always afraid of erasing something. heather.garavaglia: Anyway, posting questions is good for me. heather.garavaglia: Now, what should my question be? : ) heather.garavaglia: Rhonda Bier: i think your question of if this would be more effective done in pairs as opposed to individually is good heather.garavaglia: Okay, I will go with that one. Sorry if I rambeled about the google doc thing, again, my brain is faster than I type Rhonda Bier: i have used google docs once. i would be up for meeting again as well if that is our best route heather.garavaglia: That is cool. Send me an email when you would like to meet. I can't check email during the day (during testing) but am open any of the times we had already mentioned. heather.garavaglia: Both yoru kiddos aren't in school are they? I was going to say that if you wanted to run up to school during planning we could do that as well, but I think I remember you having one in school and one at home Rhonda Bier: what time is your planning? heather.garavaglia: 10:40-11:30, but I won't have planning until Friday thanks to TAKS. Rhonda Bier: ok heather.garavaglia: If needed, I have lunch at 11:55 so if we needed to, I could give students busy work to work on from 11:30-11:55 so we could have from 12:25 heather.garavaglia: Just don't tell anyone I said the word busywork Rhonda Bier: lets touch base in the next couple days to figure that out - an evening might be best if possible heather.garavaglia: I am open the rest of this week and most of the next-weekends too heather.garavaglia: One more quick question (sorry I know things are crazy there), did you get her email about a new rubric? I think I like the new rubric better. Once you get a chance to look at it, let me know. We can choose which one we want to use. Rhonda Bier: i saw it but havent looked closely Rhonda Bier: i can do just about any evening between now and the end of next week except for monday heather.garavaglia: Cool, If you want to look at your schedule and email me some days, I will be there. If you want tomorrow, just let me know and I can make sure to be there (even if I don't respond on email until after school is out) Rhonda Bier: ok, will do Rhonda Bier: do you prefer tomorrow or thurs evening heather.garavaglia: I am okay with either. Part of me says tomorrow to get it over with, however part of me knows my brain will be fried. If we do it Thursday, I will work tomorrow on some ideas I have for the lesson to bring on Thursday. Rhonda Bier: ok, lets shoot for thurs evening heather.garavaglia: Sounds good. Just email me times and I can be there. heather.garavaglia: I will cut and paste this to our wiki as well. Rhonda Bier: u did last time, i will copy and paste this Rhonda Bier: how about 7:00 on thurs heather.garavaglia: Cool. 7:00 sounds great. Same place? Rhonda Bier: sure if that works for u Rhonda Bier: oh wait Rhonda Bier: i had to log off for a min and lost the first part - do you have all of it? heather.garavaglia: Yep Rhonda Bier: ok, so then u will need to copy and paste Rhonda Bier is typing a message. Rhonda Bier: sorry heather.garavaglia: Not a problem. Will do.
 * Tuesday, April 27**

heather.garavaglia: I am still figuring this out and not sure if I am using this correctly. I hope this goes through. Rhonda Bier: hey there heather.garavaglia: I guess it does work. Cool. Rhonda Bier: yep - i use this all the time. love it! heather.garavaglia: I am looking through the assingment and rubric for this week. I see that this lesson has to be 40-50 minutes in length. When I first read what you wrote, I was thinking a multiple of lessons. Now, I am thinking we will need to narrow it down. What part of the project should we create a lesson for? I will look at the Reading TEKS to see what Reading Comprehension TEK we can use. Rhonda Bier: hmmm, good point and good question! Rhonda Bier: i haven't even looked at the info for this week - let me look real quick heather.garavaglia: K, if it is okay, I will email you this document that I have with the reading TEKS. I think I found one that might work, but want to get your input. I am thinking that if we are looking at the same document it would be easier. Rhonda Bier: ok, i think when i was looking at the 3rd grade teks, the idea for the lesson came from the social studies teks heather.garavaglia: I think we can use both. There are some Reading TEKS (listed under comprehension, just not sure if it is what she is looking for) that work with informational text. Rhonda Bier: reading through the assignment right now. doesnt help that i am brain dead tonight! Rhonda Bier: ok, so just read through it Rhonda Bier: the planning sheet is vague to me - i cant tell how much detail she wants on there heather.garavaglia: The rubric planning one for A. 4.1? Rhonda Bier: no, the lesson plan template Rhonda Bier: hold on, looking over the rubric heather.garavaglia : Oh, I think we kind of use the example of the one we destructed to guide us (? that is a big think-not real sure). heather.garavaglia: I have found a reading comprehension strategy that we can use if we want to take your original idea. Here are the two that I see might work: heather.garavaglia: Pg 23 on the document I sent you heather.garavaglia: Crap, sorry keep hitting return when I mean to go to the next line. I will try again. Rhonda Bier: looking at p 23 heather.garavaglia: Pg. 23 13. B draw conclusions from the facts presented in text and support those assertions with textual evidence. Rhonda Bier: k, makes sense to me Rhonda Bier : ok, looking at the assessment tools on the rubric heather.garavaglia : I am wondering if we could model how to use the online databases to find the information for that. heather.garavaglia: Maybe where you have already made charts or pretaught characteristics of good characteristics, and then when we teach together we use databases and choose one person. Rhonda Bier : you lost me. is this in reference to the reading teks? heather.garavaglia: Sorry, my mind has started planning Rhonda Bier : ha - mine is spinning at the moment heather.garavaglia : I guess I am thinking that since I wrote something about online databases in my scenario page, that we can use those instead of a book to teach our reading comprehension TEK. Rhonda Bier: ah - got it Rhonda Bier: and that is listed on the rubric - technology integration, so that works Rhonda Bier: so this is from the rubric, and it looks to me that you have already listed these, or is this something different? The collaborative planning form includes: v Content-area standards – including a reading comprehension standard. v Content-area objectives. v AASL standard(s) and strand(s) (S4L). v S4L objectives (indicators). heather.garavaglia : I have, but that was before I realized that it only had to be 40-50 minutes long. I will need to delete a lot of those, but the main ones are there. Rhonda Bier: ok, got it Rhonda Bier: here is what is throwing me off. have you wrapped your brain about this part of the rubric yet? Rhonda Bier: The collaborative planning form includes: v At least one graphic organizer. v Self-assessment rubric for students. v Assessment rubric for educators. (This can be the same but MUST be noted as such.) v Responsibilities for assessment. heather.garavaglia: Part of it, I may know. heather.garavaglia: Graphic Organizer-I guess we need to have a graphic organizer for the students to use to help organize their information. My head has some ideas but I am trying to figure out how best to exlplain the graphic organizer I am thinking of. Rhonda Bier: ok, and the self assessment rubric and educator rubrics, are we to have those completed or just reference them on the planning form? heather.garavaglia: Self-Assessment Rubric-I am thinking we can have an assessment rubric for the students to use throughout using the databases and finding the information. heather.garavaglia: I guess completed, however, I am wondering if we wanted to change them before the end we could? Rhonda Bier: good question - it would help if i look ahead in detail at the rest of the module Rhonda Bier: just found this on the rubric for the next portion of our assignment (4.3)... Rhonda Bier: The team creates a rubric as an assessment instrument for the students and for the educators. (It can be one and the same.) It is designed to accurately measure the heather.garavaglia: I read on the last rubric, It says that the team creates a rubric as an assessment instrument for the studetns and for the educators. It is designed to accurately measure the lesson objectives. I would heather.garavaglia: Was typing the same thing. heather.garavaglia: Rhonda Bier: that's confusing to me - maybe we need to clarify that with her Rhonda Bier: because like you said, we would want to change things as we further develop the lesson heather.garavaglia: I would assume that we need to have a general idea and setup heather.garavaglia: but as we see necessary, we can make changes. heather.garavaglia: I will post that question to her on the db if you want me to Rhonda Bier: ok - others must have the same question...??? Rhonda Bier: so how about we walk through the basic idea of the lesson Rhonda Bier: by the way, since you have taught third, have you done a lesson similar to this at all? heather.garavaglia: I don't remember doing this when I was teaching third. heather.garavaglia: I don't remember much of third though (sad isn't it). heather.garavaglia: I do know we didn't have access to databases at that time though Rhonda Bier: ok - i have never taught 3rd, so i have never done this either! heather.garavaglia: I do have ideas though. Here is what I am thinking. Rhonda Bier: but the third grade team in my school did, and it was always a great unit for them heather.garavaglia: The lesson we work could be just part of the overall unit you had first described (but we don't have to worry about the entire unit) Rhonda Bier: ok heather.garavaglia: You can have come to me saying that while learning about could citizenship, you have created a brainstorm of ideas that shows good citizenship. Now you want to take those characters and transfer them to historical figures heather.garavaglia: actually you would have been brainstorming character traits that shows good citizen ship. (sorry I tend to ramble-stop me if I start to) Rhonda Bier: i'm following you heather.garavaglia: You were wondering about biographies that we have, but then when I mention that we have databases where students can research the figures you decide to use that idea instead of biographies. Rhonda Bier: sounds good heather.garavaglia: Before our actual lesson, I can introduce the databases and how to search them to the class. Once that is done, you and I can take a figure that has to be learned about (or something like that) and pull that up on the screen. Rhonda Bier: ok heather.garavaglia: While reading the information about the figure, we can look for the "qaulities" of good citizenship. When we find that, maybe one of us could copy the text down, then to the side, the students would say what that shows. heather.garavaglia: Example: Rhonda Bier: this could be a good area to work in a graphic organizer heather.garavaglia: Text copied: Jonathan was the oldest of five children. Each day he had to take care of his family, but before he did that he volunteered at the nursing home. Students can conlude: Johnathan was caring about those around him and worked to help the entire community. heather.garavaglia: I agree that this would be a great place for the students to use a graphic organizer. Rhonda Bier: perfect heather.garavaglia: We could either model an entire article where we are working together with all the answers, or we can stop mid-way and and maybe just pull the text out and let the students write in what it shows. If we do the entire text then we would have to pull another text for students to model. heather.garavaglia: The extension could be the research and report they do for you. Rhonda Bier: i think i like the idea better of stopping mid way through Rhonda Bier: who do we want to use as our historical figure to model, and then do we want to provide a list of other historical figures from the students to choose from? heather.garavaglia: We can let me look what SS TEKS they have. heather.garavaglia: How does this sound for Dr. M heather.garavaglia: Rhonda and I were reading about the assessment rubric that we are to use for our project. It says that we are to list it on the planning sheet. We were wondering if the rubric we list for 4.1 has to be the exact same for 4.3. The reason I ask is that we fill some minor changes may need to be made the more we delve into the lesson. Rhonda Bier: sounds good Rhonda Bier: the SS teks lists a few figures, but it says "such as" Rhonda Bier: i would need to look them up again, but I remember one was Helen Keller heather.garavaglia: Okay, I am also trying to remember in curriculum writing if it said one thing it meant we had to if it said another it was a suggestion. Rhonda Bier: ha! i wondered that as i read the teks Rhonda Bier: there are only 3 i think included in the teks, so we would want to incorporate more for the sake of student reseach i would think heather.garavaglia: I could look through the third grade ss textbook tomorrow to see if they have anyother people. heather.garavaglia: For our example do we want to have one of the three listed: Jane Addams, Helen Keller, and Harriet Tubman Rhonda Bier: I think that would be a good idea - i am not partial to any of them heather.garavaglia: Me either. I am okay with any of them Rhonda Bier: ok, lets go with helen keller heather.garavaglia: Sounds good. I can search our databases and see what articles they have on her. I can send you the link to our databases along with the password tomorrow. It is one we give the parents. Rhonda Bier: sounds good Rhonda Bier: i had to close out my chat window at one point - do you still have the history of this chat? Rhonda Bier: i just created a chat/meeting history page on the wiki where we can post our chats (as required by dr M) heather.garavaglia: Yes, do I just cut and paste? Rhonda Bier: yes - you will see it on the wiki heather.garavaglia: Okay, I will do that. Feel free to delete any information where I might write I am totally confused. Rhonda Bier: i think we are at a good starting point heather.garavaglia: Me too. By the next time we meet, I will find the ss book and list characters. I can begin thinking on rubric and find information for the model lesson Rhonda Bier: ok, and i will start working on the rubric as well Rhonda Bier: i am sure we will be in touch via email heather.garavaglia: Any ideas on the graphic organizer? I guess we can both be thinking until then. heather.garavaglia: You mentioned that you still live in the Frisco area, where do you live Rhonda Bier: maybe the graphic organizer would be a good planning tool for them as they research - they need to fill in 3 to 5 characteristics that they find Rhonda Bier: i live on the frisco/mckinney border in craig ranch. where are you? heather.garavaglia: 5 minutes away. I live just off main between hillcrest and coit. Near gunstream. Rhonda Bier: small world! Rhonda Bier: and i used to live in the nighborhood that feeds in to Broght Rhonda Bier: Bright heather.garavaglia: very small that is too funny. Are you looking for a librarians position for the upcoming year or waiting? Rhonda Bier: waiting until i am done with the program heather.garavaglia: That is cool. I was lucky to find the job when I did. Frisco has changed their hiring policies and I slid in. (IT was a roller coaster of a process too!) Rhonda Bier: lucky you! congrats! Rhonda Bier: i will be working on this and talk to you soon heather.garavaglia: Thanks. I will talk to you soon. I will copy and paste this now.
 * Sunday, April 17**